tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29862192714778766132024-02-21T10:57:29.672-05:00Mystics, Madmen, and Messiahs~The Unchosen Lives of Carl Jung and J. KrishnamurtiThe parallel, paradoxical, and often painful lives of Carl Jung and J. Krishnamurti has never been completely told. I challenge you to read, consider and comment on how their passion, wisdom and commitment to their life purpose might revolutionize your life. Leave your old ideas behind and awaken to a new freedom. This blog is part of a book in process. Elizabeth Springhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16913744861377073587noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2986219271477876613.post-91438207717941831212013-07-18T18:32:00.000-04:002013-07-18T18:32:06.896-04:00Carl Jung's stone retreat home at Bollingen; excerpt from book "Saturn Returns; The Private Papers of A Reluctant Astrologer"<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">Carl Jung: the Astrologer’s wise old man at the Bollingen Tower<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">Dear Kendra~<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">Here’s a photo of Carl Jung’s “Bollingen Tower” that I saw
the last time I was in Zurich—such a magical place! I love that he built this
stone and timber tower as his sacred retreat. There’s a wall here where he
painted a vibrant mural of the outstretched wings of his spiritual mentor,
‘Philemon’. You can see this colorful painting in his journal: “The Red Book” –and
he painted it without benefit of electric lights—! The mural within the round
tower is the heart of this space, and it has a rustic, primitive and private
feeling. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He would take himself here to
ponder, write, and cook meals over an open fire—apparently he was quite a good
cook who loved cooking in a large pot—and if you were honored to be a guest at
supper, he would suggest “quietness” while eating so that the food could be
truly savored. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">I can imagine him here, with his pipe, his paints and
his….aloneness. He “attended to his inner life” and in this way he was an
archetypal “senex”—the wise Saturnian elder man. Jung had a Leo Sun sign, with
a Taurus Moon conjunct Pluto, and Aquarius rising.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">He was also a bit of a trickster (like Hermes), and a shaman
and scholar as well as a spiritual man and healer. His psychology came out of
his life; he broke some rules, he kept to some. As John Perry, a friend of his
noted: “There was always a little something magical about the way Jung’s mind
worked. He said that he felt himself to be more shaman than psychiatrist.” <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">Sometimes I fear that most modern psychology, and even
astrology, serves the ego’s fantasy of control, while Jungian psychology
affirms “the summons to surrender to the gods”—to that which wishes to live
through us…and calls us to listen to the inner archetypal voices which
astrologers call planets.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Jung would counsel
that we become a “disciple” to that which is calling us, and surrender to our
personal discipline. A positive view of “discipline” don’t you think? Being <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">a disciple</i> to that which you really
love? Still it’s never easy for us, nor was it for him. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">His dearest friend, Toni Wolf, highly disapproved of his
exploration of alchemy and astrology, but he pursued it anyway and that issue
finally ended their relationship of many years. Did you know that she was his
lover, companion, and ‘guide’ when he was going through his most difficult
years during his Uranus opposition, around the age of forty? And that Jung’s
wife, Emma, actually accepted Toni as a member of the family…so Toni would be
present at Sunday meals…much more accepted in European culture at that time
than it would be now! Anyway….<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">Did you know that Jung studied and practiced astrology for
forty years before he published his work on synchronicity in 1950? He used the
word “synchronicity” to explain how astrology worked, meaning that there can be
a relationship between two things that don’t have a causal relationship—that
is, that one event doesn’t scientifically cause the other to happen—i.e. pure
cause and effect. But what is significant and necessary is that there must be
an emotional meaningfulness to that moment in time. And of course, what could
be more meaningful than our birth! Jung once said:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“We are born at a moment in time, and like
the grapes in a vineyard, we take on the qualities of the time and place from
which we came.” <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">Jung used the birth charts of his clients to “find clues to
the core of psychological truth…” (this was written in a letter he wrote to
Freud <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>in 1911). <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The fact that he respected and used astrology
means a lot to those of us who combine psychology and astrology—which is what
archetypal astrologers do. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">But even if Jung didn’t have this connection, I would still
be in awe of him as the archetype of the “Wise Old Man.” He honored the Mystery
that we live within—that sea the Soul swims within—without getting dogmatic
about it. Isn’t that the heart of wisdom; to honor the Mystery without
literalizing it and without trying to make it fit precisely into concrete
scientific or historical fact? Joseph Campbell later called this kind of truth
a “myth” and he understood myths as revealing a very deep level of truth.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">Today I feel more like a mentor in writing all this. But
still <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">the story</i> continues here…and I
haven’t heard a word yet from Peter, even though Sophie and I will be in
Zurich by noon today. I’m thinking of staying in a B & B in old Zurich if
we can find a room. Perhaps I’ve honored my Saturn conjunct the Libra Sun today
by writing about Jung as the astrologer’s “senex” while listening to Bach, on
my Ipod. It has been pouring rain all day, and Sophie has been reading and
sleeping this whole train trip—but she did tell me one thing—she has a surprise
for me tonight when we get settled in our rooms….?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">Love,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Georgia;">Isabelle <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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This is Part Three of a rare documentary on Krishnamurti's early life. It portrays his mystical enlightenment experience, and the efforts of the Theosophical Society to make him a Messiah, as well as the profound disillusionment when his brother died on Ojai, California, and how that experience changed his life and message to the world. Part Four is also on YouTube and is fascinating...well worth the few minutes to see something so rare and unusual~</div>
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Here are a few of my favorite Krishnamurti quotes:</div>
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"Who wants to worship at the light of one candle when you can have the Sun?"</div>
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"My concern is to set man totally and unconditionally free."</div>
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"I could feel the wind, the birds, the dust, and every noise was a part of me...and I was a part of it. I was suprisingly happy. I have touched the compassion that heals all suffering. This is not just for myself, but for the world."</div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">I wonder what brought you to
this blog? <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I wonder what your story is, and
how one or both of these “mystics, madmen and messiahs” may have changed your
life. I wonder if you might have a sense that there is something deeply
personal in this material for you. I hope so…for it is my intention that this
writing might restore in you a sense of wonder and forgiveness: wonder for the
wisdom that was shining through their human imperfections and “shadow”—and forgiveness
and tolerance, not just for them, but for yourself, and for all who dare to
courageously ask the larger questions of life and commit to it with an
“unchosen passion.” <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I must admit that “Mystics, Mentors, and
Messiahs” is a radical title for two men who have inspired me for
over forty years. They were two men, who like many spiritual teachers in the
1970’s and 1980’s were put on pedestals and then knocked down years later. Their
courageous attempts at earnest self-inquiry, and inquiry into the collective
unconscious, not only changed the course of history, but could change your life
today, deeply, and for the better. I am committed to sharing their wisdom and passion,
as they were committed to sharing what they knew. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">Carl Jung was once asked if
he believed in God, and he answered slowly and carefully:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>“No, I don’t believe, I know.” To truly
understand what he meant by that you’ll need to re-open your mind and heart—to
leave behind some opinions, prejudices, and even</span><a name='more'></a><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"> that old “chip on your
shoulder” attitude that you may have developed. Why not?<o:p></o:p></span><br /></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Both of these men were products of their time
and culture, and they also transgressed laws and culture norms for their times.
They were human, not perfect. People don’t like to talk about the ‘darker sides’
of a great teacher or thinker that they admire. But their brilliance still
shines through if we are open to it, despite their ‘shadows.’ We can ask
ourselves, why was I drawn to this teaching? When I look at one of Jung’s
circular mandalas or listen to Krishnamurti’s talking on freedom, I sense
something true in my gut. They have tapped into something <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">numinous,</i> something sacred<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"> —</i>a
wellspring of wisdom that holds more hope and optimism than I have ever heard. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">And what about you? Do you
remember them? How did they change your life in ways you barely remember?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Like a song you barely remember from earlier
in your life, your connection with either of these <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">sages</i> may have changed your life subtly or profoundly. Their
influence permeated the culture of the 1900’s; they were the harbingers of the
New Age. Their ideas seeped into our songs, our philosophy, our politics and
our priorities.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Their ideas changed our tolerance and
understanding for people who suffer from mental illness and soul sickness. They
changed how we see ourselves—opening a door for us to think with compassion
about our human struggles and pain, not with judgment and demands. Because of
them, we no longer bow subserviently to the unquestioning laws of patriarchy, the
churches, and institutions that disregard the inner wisdom of the Self. </span><br />
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of these men, we ask more questions—and when we have emotional or spiritual
problems, most of us will not end up in a mental hospital, but will practice
talk therapy (psychotherapy), or will go to 12 step groups like AA (did you know that Jung wrote
and influenced the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, Bill W.?) or we will have
the courage to buy a “self-help” or esoteric book without judging ourselves
crazy. We are able now to reject what we <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">are
supposed</i> to belief and forge our own way—for now we do see, as Krishnamurti
once said: “Truth is a pathless land.” Jung would agree, add that you are both the
Seeker and that which is sought….the Self. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>In these times of focus on science and
technology, and radicalized politics, we could use a more balanced spiritual,
tolerant and unconditioned approach to problem solving. Jung and Krishanmurti
have something to say about that—and they each suffered and sacrificed to bring
forth what was in them--despite consequences. They laid the groundwork for such writers as Eckhart Tolle’s (“The Power of Now”), Herman Hesse and others. </span><br />
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But the “story” that has grabbed and obsessed me all these years is not their teachings,
but their lives. Their courage and their curiosity. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Their daring to live lives that were shocking
then and now, despite the profoundness of their teachings. They would have
preferred their lives to be <em>private and secret</em>. But it is out of the stories of their
lives, and how their ‘teachings’ and wisdom evolved that has grabbed and
obsessed my heart and mind for so many years. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">Both men were introverts who
would have found honest self-disclosure and comparison with each other,
difficult and distasteful. They could be said to have hidden among “words” and
dense books…perhaps so as not to be crucified by the scientific rational age
they lived in. They were the old guard of this new age, but the writings of
these two men men was almost too verbose and overwhelming to understand. Both
wrote long voluminous tomes that are almost unreadable by today’s standards,
but their stories are similar, radical and revolutionary. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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wanted respect and objectivity, and in most ways they received it. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>However in recent years so much more has
surfaced about their lives, and yes, they were “madmen” at times. And who among
us hasn’t been? There is much hidden about their lives, and much judgement.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">Both Jung and Krishnamurti
were icons and gurus of the 1960’s—although both would vehemently protest
against that labeling. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Krishnamurti, (1895-1986)
who I will now call “K” as he was often referred to by his friends, was known
as an “anti-guru Guru” because his essential message awoke us to question
whether we needed churches, doctrines, or other people’s teachings to lead us
to Truth and Freedom. He abhorred gurus. Yet he spent his lifetime teaching and
“shaking us psychically”— pleading for us to become awake and aware of our
cultural conditioning that has kept us in bondage—asking us to stop aligning
with all sorts of ideologies and ideas that keep us from being free. He didn’t
say: you must meditate, you must be a vegetarian, or you must see God a certain
way. K was the Guru who said: no more gurus; do it yourself—become free, awake
and aware of your own conditioning; He said forge a new trail--whereas Jung
said simply: become yourself. Experience the numionus and sacred directly. Find the God within by being truly yourself--ie: “individuate.”<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">So who was this man, Carl Jung? He was a Swiss
psychiatrist, (1875-1961) who was well known for his break with Sigmund Freud. He had a passion for alchemy and astrology, and
the idea of what he called the ‘natural man,’ which allowed him to be, with
honest conscience, with many women and to see these anima figures as his “muses”.
Jung was born twenty years before Krishnamurti (another man who had his “muses” as well.) Jung was married to one of Switzerland's richest women, and had 5 children. Jung, and Jungian thought, especially through James Hillman and Thomas Moore, has regained much
popularity in recent years. And now with the publication of his hidden journal “The Red Book” there is a renewed interest in why Jung took his most important book (according to him) and never published it...it was taken out of a locked cabinet in his house and given to the world a half century after his death. This enormous red-leather bound
tome of a book has even been compared to the "Book of Kells" for Jung's beautiful illustrations and mandalas.</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"> The “Herr Doctor Professor” wrote this<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> private masterpiece </span>during and after his nervous breakdown, and declares that all his major insights into the collective unconscious came from this delving into his own unconscious process through active imagination. He was his own experiment...he was the "scientist" who drew mostly on his own experiments with himself. I would call this the work of a mystic, an artist, and a rather pedantic scholar, rather than a scientist.</span></div>
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similarities…. both suffered from painfully long nervous breakdowns in their
thirties, that radically changed the course and teachings of their lives. Both
men lived in an elite upper-class society, and both men were idolized, put on a
pedestal and most recently, torn off their pedestals with charges of everything
from anti-semitism, to womanizing and callousness. Some of these charges are
not true (i.e. the anti-semiticism, but others one could make a case for.)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;">And who was J. Krishnamurti? A child adopted out of India who was raised and bred to be the avatar for a new age. He was raised like a
young god or fine racehorse, a person born to be a Star—he was in fact, schooled and trained by the English
aristocracy of the early 1900’s to be the next coming of Christ! He was clairvoyantly declared to be the Messiah of this age--but he rejected it, and instead of following the path of the Theosophists, he spent most of his life teaching how to be 'free'. That was what he had to learn for himself, and it was what he taught us. </span><br />
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was much more "unchosen"(more about that later) and instead was expected to follow in Sigmund Freud’s shadow, to be famous, and to stay
within the boundaries of Freud’s psychoanalytic circles of the time—and mostly
to stay away from any ideas about God, the occult, and the "dark mud of
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<span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> So this is a beginning. I do hope </span>you’ll be able to relax your judgments so that you can find the men behind their persona-masks and to see the gold in the shadows of their lives. I do see them as "mystics, madmen and messiahs" but not negatively. They are the most fascinating people I've known, and sadly I never knew them personally, though they dwell in my heart. I moved to Ojai California only one year after Krishnamurti died there, but although I missed him, I did get to know many of his closest friends and family. I have studied Jung, and poignantly stood in front of the door to his house, but was unable to go in. Above this door it reads in Latin: "Called or not called, God is present." He honored the synchronistic spirit of God that enters into all who enter into relationship with their 'higher power.' He didn't see himself as a Messiah either, but he dwelt in those realms.</span><br />
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and eventually this book, will give you an unexpected joy and optimism and
courage in a time when we seem to need it most. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>~Elizabeth Spring~ December, 2012<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span><a href="http://www.elizabethspring.com/"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="color: blue;">www.elizabethspring.com</span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"> and<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span><a href="mailto:elizabethspring@aol.com"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="color: blue;">elizabethspring@aol.com</span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 200%; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"> <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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